Showing posts with label Shaquille Oneal. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Shaquille Oneal. Show all posts

Tuesday, August 4, 2009

Cleveland's Last Ditch Effort To Keep Lebron May Fall Short

(Above photo from Laz's Blackboard)

We are all witnesses. LeBron is a player for the ages, but his MVP season was cut short this year when his team was outdone by the Orlando Magic. A season before that, they were beaten in 7 games by the championship Celtics and the season before THAT, they were swept in the Finals by San Antonio. The additions of Mo Williams, Ben Wallace, and Delonte West didn't pan out quite the way Cavalier fans wanted (didn't win the championship, but Williams had a good year), so the Cavs went out and got Shaq in what seems to be like a last ditch effort to keep Lebron from opting out of his contract and becoming a Free Agent in 2010.

Facts:
Mo Williams
Delonte West
LeBron James
Anderson Varejao (or maybe newly acquired Jamario Moon)
Shaquille O'Neal (with Zydrunas Ilgauskus coming off the bench)

Shaquille O'Neal's contract: Owed $20 million in 2009-2010 season, FA in 2010

Read between the baselines:

Shaq's mission this season is to "Get the King his ring." Well that's all fine and great, but let's talk about the Cavaliers and their LONG TERM PLANS. Even if the Cavs do make it far into the playoffs and maybe even win the championship, the team next year will still be mainly LeBron James and Co., which begs the question, would LeBron still opt out of his contract and try and find a new team, preferably and probably one that can compete for a championship for many years rather than a bunch of last ditch attempts with aging superstars?

Shaquille O'Neal is old and has played many games. It doesn't take away the fact that he can still put up solid numbers. He was revived last season in Phoenix where ultimately fired Terry Porter tried and failed to bring the Suns to the playoffs by slowing the team's offense down and making Shaq a more focal point. It didn't work out well for the Suns, but Shaq sure had a good year. He led the league in FG% at 60.9%, scoring 17.8 points and grabbing 8.4 rebounds, all while averaging 30 minutes for 75 games (compared to the 61 games he played in 07/08 for Miami and Phoenix combined).

But many more seasons of this kind of Shaquille is asking a lot. Again, the Cavs got better with him, and do have a chance to win the championship this year, but will they compete for years to come? Not with this team. Shaq won't be asked to carry the team, but he may not even be able to play 2nd fiddle to King LeBron's reign (Enough with the King talk). The 75 games he played last season were the most since 2004/2005 in Miami when he played 73 games. In 05/06 he played 59 games, then 40 games in 06/07, and 61 games in 07/08. There's a more than decent chance that Shaq won't play a full season, leaving LeBron to play with last year's lineup, which won a lot of games, but couldn't hold up in the playoffs. Again, the Cavs did get better this season, we are talking about long term plans for the Cavs.

(Photo from First Order Historians)

Let's not forget that Shaq is also a Free Agent next summer. Would he want to keep playing in Cleveland if they don't win a championship? Even he has to think he can't hold up for any longer than three to four years. The Cavs roster so far for the 2011 season and beyond: Mo Williams, Anderson Varejao, Daniel Gibson, Jamario Moon. Not something so appealing to a superstar legend in the making without rings and an aged, decorated superstar looking to wrap up his career.

Regarding Cleveland Coaching:
Mike Brown got the Coach of the Year award this season. There were plenty of coaches who probably were more deserving but sometimes, coaches vote for whoever did the most with the least talent. The Cavs had LeBron and a nice year from Mo Pete and got the most wins in the NBA. Yes, you could argue that it takes a certain kind of coach to "deal" with a superstar in LeBron. But does LeBron need to be settled down? Besides the off court/out of game issues of not shaking Orlando's hands and the hiding of the tapes of him being dunked on, LeBron was calm, cool, and collected throughout the season, being a leader, being fun, being charismatic, and being a good teammate. What does Mike Brown do? He has him run pick and rolls until the fourth quarter and has LeBron drive and kick for almost 38 minutes a game. This is how you play weekend pick up basketball at the park.

Can LeBron lead this team to another deep playoff run with the league's best record? Yes. Will having Shaq help? YES. Will Shaq be around and play at a high level for a more than just this season to keep LeBron interested in playing in Cleveland? That's the question. Shaq cannot produce solid numbers for much longer. So if LeBron re-signs, and Shaq either retires or leaves to another team via Free Agency, LEBRON IS BACK AT SQUARE ONE.

Cleveland's pick up of Shaq is a quick fix to buy some time with no long term solution in sight. Shaq bought Cleveland a year to please the King. Next year, they may have to scramble for another star, and they may have to do it with the King in a different jersey (and some different colored drapes).

(Photo from The Crawfish Boxes)

Those are the facts. And that's one way to read between the [base]lines.

Sunday, August 2, 2009

Yao out for season, Shaq in Cleveland, who's the starting all star center for the West?


With Yao Ming out for the season to recover from foot surgery and Shaquille O'Neal being traded out of the Western Conference to Cleveland, who is likely to be voted as the starting center for the western conference all star starting lineup? (Above photo from JoshqPublic).

FACTS:

2005 All Star West Center Voting:
  1. Yao Ming - Hou - 2,558,278
  2. Brad Miller - Sac - 429,413
  3. Marcus Camby - Den - 313,214
2006 All Star West Center Voting:
  1. Yao Ming - Hou - 2,342,738
  2. Marcus Camby - Den - 859,086
  3. Mehmet Okur - Utah - 494,261
2007 All Star West Center Voting:
  1. Yao Ming - Hou - 2,451,718
  2. Amaré Stoudemire - Pho - 1,209,333
  3. Erick Dampier - Dal - 385,179
2008 All Star West Center Voting:
  1. Yao Ming - Hou - 1,709,180
  2. Amaré Stoudemire - Phx - 998,969
  3. Marcus Camby - Den - 412,563
2009 All Star West Center Voting:
  1. Yao Ming - Hou - 2,532,958
  2. Shaquille O'neal - Phx - 1,850,018
  3. Andrew Bynum - LAL - 549,131
  4. Mehmet Okur - Utah - 437,106
  5. Greg Oden - Por - 359,318
  6. Andris Biedrins - GS - 357,984
  7. Al Jefferson - Minn - 310,643
  8. Tyson Chandler - NO - 242,356
  9. Chris Kaman - 231,928
  10. Marcus Camby - 158,491
Probable Centers on rosters to challenge for starting West Center:

Nene Hilario (Den), Al Jefferson and Kevin Love (Minn), Greg Oden and Lamarcus Aldrich (Por), Mehmet Okur (Utah), Andris Biedrins (GS), Andrew Bynum and Pau Gasol (LAL), Chris Kaman and Marcus Camby (LAC), Amaré Stoudemire (Phx), Erick Dampier (Dal), Luis Scola (Hou), Emeka Okafor (NO), Tim Duncan (SA)

2009 All Star BALLOT for Centers (who you were allowed to vote for at Center):

Andris Biedrins, Golden State; Andrew Bynum, LA Lakers; Marcus Camby, LA Clippers; Tyson Chandler, New Orleans; Nick Collison, Oklahoma City; Al Jefferson, Minnesota; Chris Kaman, LA Clippers; Brad Miller, Sacramento; Greg Oden, Portland; Mehmet Okur, Utah; Shaquille O'Neal, Phoenix; Yao Ming, Houston.

PROBABLE 2010 ALL STAR BALLOT FOR WEST CENTERS:

Nene Hilario (Den), Al Jefferson (Minn), Greg Oden (Por), Mehmet Okur (Utah), Andris Biedrins (GS), Andrew Bynum (LAL), Chris Kaman and Marcus Camby (LAC), Amaré Stoudemire (Phx), Erick Dampier (Dal), Luis Scola (Hou), Emeka Okafor (NO)

Read between the baselines:

Well Yao Ming sure brings in the votes with well over 2 million almost every year, he now won't even suit up this season or be on the all star ballot due to his foot injury sustained in the playoffs against the Lakers. Based on the 2009 voting and who is probably going to be C eligible for the all star game, the top candidates for the Yao replacement is Amaré Stoudemire (unless the Suns find a replacement for Shaq. Listed as a forward at 2009 ballot), and Andrew Bynum (3rd in voting behind Shaq and Yao last year).

Case for Amaré
(Photo from RyanSarda.wordpress.com)
Amare, a 4 time NBA All Star, was a starting F for the 2009 all star game after averaging 21.4 pts, 8.1 reb, 2 ast, a steal and a block and before having surgery on his eye that took him out of the rest of the season. Those are all star numbers and he's exciting to watch and popular among fans. The all star starters are VOTED in by FANS. That's something to keep in mind because sometimes, the more popular player gets voted in over a better player who may be more deserving of the all star spot.

The Suns, however did take a step backward last season and didn't make the playoffs. Trading Shaq away and resigning Nash could possibly make the Suns more of the run and gun team we saw in the pre shaq seasons. From those days though, the Suns are minus Boris Diaw, Raja Bell, and Joe Johnson. They now have Leandro Barbosa, Nash and Amaré joined by Grant Hill, Jason Richardson, Robin Lopez, and Earl Clark. If they get back to their run and gun offense, Amaré's numbers could jump back to 25 pts and 9 rebounds shooting 59% FG he averaged in 2007-2008. If he's on the ballot as a C, and has a good year like he had before Shaq came, he has more than a good chance at getting the West starting C nod.

Case for Bynum

(Photo from Andrew-Bynum.net)
Again, Bynum was third in voting behind the 2 guys that won't be on the ballot this year. Before wrecking his knee again against the Grizzlies (again), Bynum had scored in double figures 12 straight games, including a 42 point career high against the Clippers. Of those 12 straight games, he had double figures in rebounds in six of them including at least 14 in four of those six. Then he got injured at the end of January, a few weeks before the all star game. When he came back, he was worked slowly back into the rotation and had a sub par playoffs where he couldn't get any time on the floor due to foul trouble.

In the 2007-2008 season before he got injured for the first time, he scored in double figures in 16 times out of 18 games before he wrecked his knee in the middle of January. In those 18 games, he got double figure rebounds 10 times and 9 rebounds 4 times. For that season, which lasted 35 games for him, he was AVERAGING a double double at 13.1 pts and 10.2 reb.

If he gets back to form and that knee finally is at 100%, he can probably get back to averaging a double double and having a shot at the starting west C position come all-star weekend. As stated, the fans vote for the starting lineup and the Lakers will have a lot of air time on TV for all fans to see. After winning the championship and getting Ron Artest and Lamar Odom, the Lakers could have the best record in basketball with Bynum getting a lot of attention from the media and fans. The Lakers will be a great team and Kobe and Pau could be considered locks to make the all star team (Kobe starting, Pau probably a reserve). If Bynum can put up his pre knee injury numbers, he could definitely make the team and possibly be voted in to the starting lineup by the fans.

Other players who could get it are Nene Hilario who was 2nd in the the league in FG% and has some flash and flare with his energy and slam dunks, Mehmet Okur who has been an all star reserve, averaged 17 points last year and can shoot the 3 pointer, and Al Jefferson, who before his injury, averaged 23 points and 11 rebounds (!) but plays in Minnesota where the Wolves don't win a lot of games and aren't as popular league wise as the Lakers or the Suns are.

The showdown for the All Star west center started when it was announced Yao was out for the season.

Those are the facts, and that's one way to read between the [base]lines.